Open questions

Peter Valentins (1942 vs 1943) and Kalvis (1946 vs 1947): birth years in Raimonds's MyHeritage tree

Probably Peter Valentins was born 1942 in Rīga and Kalvis 1946 at Haunstetten, as our records say; Raimonds's years are off by one.

'Šanis Danenbergs' of Dzērupi farm, Penkule, injured mowing (Jaunais Zemgalietis, 27 Sep 1931)

Possibly This is Arvīds's brother Žanis, and the family lived at Dzērupi, Penkule parish, in 1931 (Arvīds is 'from Penkule' in the 1931 Jelgava school list). People: Arvīds Fricis Danenbergs.

Astra Danenberga (living), daughter of another Alfreds and Stefānija, Rīga

Possibly Her father Alfreds is kin of Alberts. People: Alberts Danenbergs.

Blīdene 1903 marriage no. 17: Didrikis Forstmanis × Krinka

Possibly Didriķis Forstmanis is of Zelma's family; his sons Rūdolfs (b. 8 Dec 1905 Vecauce, pastor, d. 1968 Philadelphia) and Kārlis (b. 1916 Vecauce) would be Zelma's nephews or cousins. People: Zelma Forstmane.

Jaunauce 1913 birth no. 31: Eduards Jūlijs Dannenbergs

Possibly A cousin of Arvīds, born the same year nearby. People: Alberts Danenbergs, Arvīds Fricis Danenbergs.

Penkule Danenbergs: Minna Danenbergs adopts Ernests Johans Osvalds (b. 15 Oct 1911), son of Jānis and Līna Danenbergs (Penkule court, 1932)

Possibly A Jānis × Līna (Lizete?) Danenbergs family in Penkule, perhaps the Duhren brickmaker Jānis × Lizete of 1900, is Alberts's kin; with Žanis at Dzērupi and Arvīds 'from Penkule', the family's 1930s home was Penkule. People: Alberts Danenbergs.

The Dannenbergs of Dūre (Blīdene), Lielbērze and Lielauce: Jānis × Lizete and their children

Possibly The brickmaker Jānis Dannenberg and Lizete (Dūre brickworks, Blīdene; children Žanis Osvalds b. 1899, Malvīne b. c. 1884 Lielbērze, m. Lielauce 1907) are Alberts's parents or kin; Alberts may be Malvīne's brother. People: Alberts Danenbergs.

The Forstmanns of Duhren (Dūre), Blīdene: the shoemaker Johann/'Jeannot' and Emma (son Jannis Theodor b. 1884), and Latte Forstmann (1889)

Possibly The shoemaker Johann Forstmann and his wife Emma of Duhren, Blīdene, are Zelma's parents; Latte Forstmann (an unmarried girl in 1889) is her aunt or sister. People: Zelma Forstmane.

Next step: Read the remaining Blīdene birth years 1878–92 for a Forstmann daughter.

The Lielauce Forstmanns: Olga Emīlija (m. 1902 Villis Pol), Jānis (m. 1900 Lizete Ziganowski)

Possibly Olga Emīlija Forstmane is Zelma's sister; a Forstmann family lived in the Lielauce–Blīdene area. People: Zelma Forstmane.

Alberts × Zelma Forstmane marriage, c. 1900–12

Open They married in Lielauce, Jaunauce or Blīdene. People: Alberts Danenbergs, Zelma Forstmane.

Arvīds's birthplace: Tukums / Stūrmuiža / Auce-Vecauce / Penkule

Open He was born at Stūrmuiža (Stūri, Blīdene parish), Tukums district. People: Arvīds Fricis Danenbergs.

Two press/directory mentions of an Alberts Danenbergs: Lejasķuļi farm (1931 address book) and Rūjiena (fined, 1929)

Open One of these is Arvīds's father Alberts. People: Alberts Danenbergs.

Next step: gramatas.lndb.lv book 692621: read the page.

Valida Danenbergs (4 camp-list rows, no image online)

Open A Danenbergs relative in the DP camps. People: Arvīds Fricis Danenbergs.

A schoolteacher Danenbergs of 'Raudīte' parish school, recently dead in Nov 1898

Doubtful He was Alberts's father or kin, the source of the family's 'teacher' tradition. People: Alberts Danenbergs.

Arvīds × Elvīra's marriage: 1941 (ours) vs 'between 1953 and 1956' (Raimonds's MyHeritage tree)

Confirmed They married in 1941 (civil, Litene, 25 Jun 1941; banns Jelgava St Anne's 7 Dec 1941; church, St John's, Cēsis, Dec 1941 / Jan 1942). Raimonds's 'between 1953 and 1956' is not a marriage date but MyHeritage's 'Marriage (implied)' from a city directory. People: Arvīds Fricis Danenbergs, Elvīra Antonija Sirlaka.

Danenberg Y line: N-Z16980 (> A11470?), ethnic Latvian; no Danenberg Y matches

Confirmed The paternal line is ethnically Latvian, from the A11470 cluster. People: Alberts Danenbergs.

Angelika Danenberga, b. 6 Jul 1891 Tartu

Unlikely A Danenbergs relative (dependent of a 'Leonhards'). People: Alberts Danenbergs.

Arvīds's brother Žanis = Arolsen's Jānis Danenbergs b. 9 Apr 1902 (with Lilija and Gunārs)

Unlikely Jānis Danenbergs (b. 9 Apr 1902, 'Gem. Kraukli', textile technician), wife Lilija (b. 30 Aug 1905 Rīga) and son Gunārs (living; → Catawba NC 1950) are Arvīds's brother Žanis's family.

Ēriks Danenbergs, b. 5 Sep 1921 Lielauce, father Augusts; maths teacher at Auce 1950s–70s

Unlikely Ēriks is close kin of Alberts; or he is the 'maths teacher' conflated into the family tradition about Alberts. People: Alberts Danenbergs.

Alfreds Danenbergs b. 30 Aug 1921 Rīga and his wife Biruta ('Bizuta') née Zīle

Ruled out Alfreds (and his wife Biruta née Zīle, b. 1922) are kin. NB this Biruta is Alfreds's wife, not Elvīra's sister Biruta Sirlaka/Balka. People: Arvīds Fricis Danenbergs.

Ede Kārkliņa née Danenberga (b. 19 Apr 1860 Jul. = 1 May 1860 Greg. at Ķoņu muiža, Rūjiena; father Mārtiņš Danenbergs × Šarlote Zariņa)

Ruled out An aunt or great-aunt line of Alberts (a generation above him); daughter Lūcija Grosbergs. People: Alberts Danenbergs.

Aina's death: 2001 (Voronins tree) vs 18 Mar 2003 (Timenote)

Probably She died 18 Mar 2003. People: Aina Modrīte Sirlaka.

Kristīne Gibboy (b. c. 1855), Marija's sister, and Kristīne Karnīte née Gibboy (godmother 1883, mother 1888)

Probably Kristīne Gibboy, b. c. 1855 (I1302), is Marija's full sister: the 1857 Priekuļi revision lists 'Töchter 1. Marri 4, 2. Christine 2' of Marz Gibboi (50) and his wife Anne (38), Marija's parents I1020 × I1021. Since 2026-10-27 she is in the tree as their child, a probable link (a revision household, not her baptism), classed by this lead. She is very probably also the Kristīne Gibboy who stood godmother to Marija's son Mārtiņš in 1883 and, as Kristine Gibboi, the mother of Jānis Karnicht, b. 27 May 1888 at Vīstuči (Rauna births 1888 no. 132): that identity, and her son, stay ghosts beside her (candidate_links). People: Marija Gibboja, Mārcis Gibboy, Anna Mežciema, Kristīne Gibboy.

Kārlis Sirlaks's daughters Ausma (m. Grīnbergs) and Skaidrīte (dentist, Rauna)

Probably Kārlis Sirlaks and Alvīne had two daughters, Ausma (commercial school; married into the Grīnbergs family of Rīga; three children) and Skaidrīte (a dentist in Rauna; an unhappy marriage, one son). Since 2026-10-26 they are persons, from Raimonds's MyHeritage tree: Ausma (I1224, b. 1920, no death recorded, so counted as living) and Skaidrīte (I1225, 1922–1988). Their links to Kārlis and Alvīne are classed by this lead. People: Kārlis Sirlaks, Ausma Sirlaka, Skaidrīte Sirlaka.

Next step: Passport index (LVVA f. 2996) for Ausma and Skaidrīte Sirlaka f. Kārlis; a death or grave for Ausma Grīnberga.

Links from Raimonds's MyHeritage tree that his notes or record matches support with a record (probable)

Probably A parent/child or spouse link taken from Raimonds Voroņins's MyHeritage tree whose support in his tree is a record: a soul revision or church book he cites in a note on one of the two people (with the frame), the 1949 deportation lists, or a confirmed record match. Probable: good evidence, not yet read by us. The record and frame are in each link's citation. Since 2026-10-27 also links of his tree that a record we have read bears out without naming both parents (to_curation.py READ_LINKS; the record is cited on the link): the 1850 revision's son Mārcis (b. 1849) of Marija's parents I1020 × I1021, and the 1857 revision's 'Jahns Söhne' (image 32): Mārcis b. 1816, Jānis b. 1822 and Dāvis b. 1825 as sons of Jānis Ģibols × Masche (the page names only a Jahn), and the 1816 Mārcis × his wife Anne (Raimonds's Anna Balodis). Currently: Mārcis b. 1849 and Jānis b. c. 1831 (the 1834 revision), sons of Marija's father Mārcis (I1020); the 1816 Mārcis × Anne and the three 'Jahns Söhne'; Anna Vīstuce's daughters Marija and Liene; and Harijs Sirlaks as son of Emīlis. (Kristīne's link to I1020 × I1021 is classed by lead kristine-gibboy.) People: Marija Vīstucis, Liene Vīstucis, Harijs Sirlaks, Jānis Ģibols, Dāvis Ģibols, Jānis Gibols, Mārcis Ģibols.

Marija Gibboja's death: 1920 (2015 tree) vs 1925 (Voronins tree, Timenote)

Probably She died 1 Nov 1925 at Vīstuči (not 1920). People: Marija Gibboja.

Next step: Ask the LVVA or the civil-registry archive.

Raimonds Voronins (FTDNA 43 cM) = the 2017 "Raimonds"

Probably Peter's Family Finder match Raimonds Voronins descends from Dāvis Sirlaks → Ilga, is Peter's 3rd cousin, and is the Raimonds who researched the line with Dad in 2017. People: Ilga Laimdota Sirlaka.

Next step: Await reply; ask for Aina's memoir.

Dāvis = "Dahwis Sihraks", town policeman, m. Emilija Sirnis 1909

Possibly Dāvis Sirlaks had an earlier marriage (1909) to Emilija Sirnis. People: Dāvis Sirlaks.

Links from Raimonds's MyHeritage tree that rest on his tree alone (possible)

Possibly A parent/child or spouse link taken from Raimonds Voroņins's MyHeritage tree with no record behind it in his tree (or only another online tree: Geni, the FamilySearch tree, a Smart Match). Possible: shown on the private build and, for the deceased, on the public tree with a 'possible' label; never part of the chain that decides which living people are published. Also every link of the Balodis line, whatever the record behind it. Since 2026-10-27 that line is the family of Anna Balodis (I1324), wife of Mārcis Ģibols b. 1816, and not Peter's ancestry: it hung on his unsourced 2021 attachment of Marija Ģibols to that couple, which the 1857 Priekuļi revision contradicts. Its people are kept. People: Ansis Sirlaks, Jānis Ģibols, Ansis, Jānis, Līze, Bērtulis Balodis, Anna, Līze, Dāvis Vīstucis, Olga Sirlaks, Jānis Sirlaks, Minna Sirlaks, Juris Ģibols, Ansis Ģibols, Jānis Ģibols, Mārcis Ģibols, Jānis Ģibols, Anna Ģibols, Marija Ģibols, Masche Ģibols, Anna Ģibols, Pēteris Ģibols, Kristīne Ģibols, Jānis, Trīne, Mārcis Balodis, Pēteris Balodis, Līze Balodis, Jānis Balodis, Mārcis Balodis, Anna Pandars, Kristīne Panders, Velta Paeglīte, Mārcis Balodis, Anna Balodis.

Next step: Ask Raimonds (with Peter's OK) where the modern family details come from. The Balodis line (Anna Balodis's parents Bērtulis × Anna and their forebears) rests on his tree alone; since it is no longer Peter's ancestry, it is not a priority.

Minna Smurge née Sirlaka (godparent, 1890)

Possibly Minna Smurge née Sirlaka is Minna Sirlaka (b. 1866, Jāņmuiža mill; I1030), daughter of Jānis Sirlaks and Līze Veidenbaums, so Pēteris's first cousin. (Earlier guess: Pēteris's sister.) People: Pēteris Sirlaks, Minna Sirlaka.

Next step: Raduraksti: Rauna marriages c. 1885–90 for Smurge × Sirlak.

Mārcis Sirlaks's parents and the 1816–1850 Jaunrauna revisions

Possibly Mārcis was the son of Jānis Sirlaks (manor weaver, b. c. 1779) and Masche. People: Mārcis Sirlaks, Jānis Sirlaks.

'Sirlaku dzimta': a second Sirlaks family plot at Jaunrauna (001-147), and Zelma Sirlaka née Zirnis (1885–1971, 001-155)

Open The plot 001-147 holds the Kalna Vīstuči (brother) line of Jānis Sirlaks × Līze Veidenbauma; Mīle (née Upīte, b. 1869) buried there is Mīle, wife of Reinholds Sirlaks (I1031). People: Jānis Sirlaks, Reinholds Sirlaks.

'Īrīnas tante' (aged 85 in 1995) at Valdis Sirlaks's funeral

Open An aunt of the family, b. c. 1910, who recited a poem at Valdis's grave; identity unknown (a Voroņins relative?).

Aina Jurciņa née Sirlaka's memoir (unpublished typescript)

Open Aina wrote a memoir of the family; Raimonds held it in 2017. People: Aina Modrīte Sirlaka.

Next step: Asked Raimonds.

Alberts Jurciņš's father, owner of the model farm 'Zvirgzdiņi', Jaungulbene

Open The unnamed owner of 'Zvirgzdiņi' (one of Latvia's 105 model farms) was Alberts's father. People: Alberts Jurciņš.

Living people in Aina's memoir: Dāvis's descendants, Harijs Sirlaks's line, Regīna

Open The memoir's family register (pp. 34–36) names Dāvis Sirlaks's living grandchildren and great-grandchildren with their birth dates, plus Harijs Sirlaks (b. 1932) of the brother line and Regīna, daughter of Irma Pirainena. Until 2026-10-26 only the line to Raimonds Voroņins and Valdis's widow Valda were in the tree, as names, and every finding stayed here. Since 2026-10-26 (Raimonds's OK to use the memoir for the living Sirlaks descendants, S-peter-2026-10-26) the findings go to the people his MyHeritage tree brought in, and the register's `parents` and couple findings cite their family links (documented). Left here: Valdis Voroņins, the builder of 1997, whose kinship is not stated. Not in the tree: Arnis (b. 1966) and Inese of the p. 38 tables (Harijs's line).

Next step: Valdis Voroņins: ask Raimonds how he is related, if at all.

Neighbours and friends named in Aina's memoir (not kin)

Open Vladimirs Kuģenieks (Aina's other suitor, d. 1953) and Alma Ozola née Strube (Velta's godmother) are not relatives.

Next step: None unless they turn out to be kin.

Olga Zirne of Lejas Gāles: Emīlis Sirlaks's sister, or his wife Elza's?

Open Olga, wife of Jānis Zirnis of 'Lejas Gāles', was née Sirlaka, a daughter of Reinholds and Mīle. People: Reinholds Sirlaks, Emīlis Sirlaks.

Small date differences in Raimonds's MyHeritage tree: Anna (1890), Natālija (1887), Velta (1918), Valdis (1995), Reinholds (1949)

Open Ours stand: Anna b. 23 Mar 1890 Jul. = 4 Apr; Natālija d. 2 Jun 1887 Jul. = 14 Jun; Velta b. 19 Sep 1918; Valdis d. 12 (or 20) Oct 1995. Reinholds's death is open: 20 Apr (ours) or 22 Apr 1949 (the deportation list Raimonds quotes). People: Anna Sirlaka, Natālija Emīlija Sirlaka, Velta Skaidrīte Sirlaka, Valdis Laimdots Sirlaks, Reinholds Sirlaks.

Smukuls and Kahjon (Kajons) families in Rauna parish, 1884–86 (godparents)

Open The farmer (Wirth) Peter Kahjon and his wife Anna are Marija Kajone's parents or kin; 'Mahrz Smukkul' and the farmhand Jahn Smukkul (father of Ernst, b. 1884 at Lubar) are Dāvis Smukuls's brothers or kin. People: Dāvis Smukuls, Marija Kajone.

The Vīstucis family the farm is named after (Mārcis Vīstucis, Jūlijs Vīstucis)

Open Mārcis Vīstucis, who sold 'the house' to Jānis Sirlaks in 1869, and the teacher Jūlijs Vīstucis (b. 1839) were kin of Anne, the Vīstucis widow whom Mārcis Sirlaks married; her son Dāvis Vīstucis was Pēteris's half-brother. People: Mārcis Sirlaks, Anna Sirlaka, Jānis Sirlaks.

Vīstuči farm: buildings, the 1973 sale to kolkhoz 'Arājs', restitution 1993–96

Open The memoir's chronology of the farm (a place history, not a person). People: Dāvis Sirlaks, Valdis Laimdots Sirlaks.

Next step: Land book and Cēsis court files of 1995 for the restitution; attach to a place record when places carry histories.

What became of Kristīne Sirlaka (b. 1888), Pēteris and Marija's daughter?

Open Kristīne died young or married and left before c. 1911: the c. 1911 family photograph's caption lists only Anna and Erna as the missing daughters. People: Kristīne Sirlaka.

Next step: Raduraksti: Rauna deaths 1888–1900 first.

Anna Smukule (b. 3 Sep 1889 Rauna; godmother to Emma's daughter Elvīra, 1912): Emma's sister

Confirmed Anna Smukule, unmarried godmother of Elvīra in 1912, was Emma's younger sister. People: Emma Smukule, Anna Smukule.

Emma Smukule b. 25 Dec 1885 Jul. = 6 Jan 1886, Rauna; parents Dāvis Smukuls + Marija Kajone (Kahjon)

Confirmed Her baptism is Rauna births 1886 no. 33: Emma Smukkul, parents farmhand Dahw Smukkul and Marie geb. Kahjon. FOUND (sweep 2026-10-24); the facts are on Emma, Dāvis and Marija, and the entry cites the parent link (F1008). People: Emma Smukule, Dāvis Smukuls, Marija Kajone.

Next step: Read the baptism's month column and the farm name; the parents' marriage (Rauna, c. 1880–85) would give their ages and origins.

Marija Ģibols's mother Anne (b. c. 1822): born Mežciems (Meschzeem)

Confirmed Marija Ģibola's mother Anne (I1021, second wife of Mārcis Ģibols I1020) was born Anna Mežciema ('Anne Meschzeem'), married Mārcis Ģibols in Cēsis parish on 19 Oct 1847 Jul. (= 31 Oct 1847 Greg.), and was the daughter of Jānis Mežciems (c. 1786–1833) × Līze (b. c. 1786) and granddaughter of farmer Jēkabs Jāņa d. Mežciems (c. 1758–1832) × Maža (b. c. 1776) at Farm No. 1 Meschzeem (Mežciemi), Priekuļi. People: Anna Mežciema, Jānis Mežciems, Līze Mežciema, Jēkabs Mežciems, Maža Mežciema, Jānis.

Marija Ģibols's parents Mārcis and Anne: Mārcis b. c. 1807 × Anna b. c. 1819 (the 1857 revision), not Raimonds's Mārcis b. 1816 × Anna Balodis

Confirmed Marija's parents, Mahrzis Gibboy and Anne of her 1853 baptism (Priekuļi, Kalna-Pohdis; I1020 × I1021), are Mārcis Ģibols b. c. 1807 and his second wife Anna b. c. 1819: hypothesis (B), Raimonds's I500599 × I500600 (his 'Anna Mežciems'), and Kristīne b. c. 1855 is her full sister. Not (A), Mārcis b. 1816, son of Jānis Ģibols (1790–1847) × Masche, and Anna Balodis b. 1819, daughter of Bērtulis Balodis × Anna, to whom Raimonds's tree attaches her (family F500681, married 1843, no note or source, added March 2021). CONFIRMED by the 1857 Priekuļi soul revision, read in full on 2026-10-27 (research/sweep/sirlaks-frontier, Round 3): its only Gibboi girl of Marija's age is Marri, 4, daughter of Marz Gibboi (50) and Anne (38) at Rauguļi, with her sister Christine, 2; the 1816 Mārcis is on the list too ('Jahns Söhne 1. Marz Gibboi Wirth', 41½, at the Ģiboļi farm) with a wife Anne of 38 and no Marija. In the tree since 2026-10-27: Raimonds's 1807 couple merged into I1020 × I1021 (the duplicates of the 2026-10-26 import, I1288 × I1291, retired); Kristīne (I1302) and Mārcis b. 1849 (I1300) their children (probable); the 1816 couple separate people (I1323 × I1324), Mārcis a son of Jānis × Masche (probable, 'Jahns Söhne'); Marija not linked to them; the Balodis line the family of the 1816 Mārcis's wife, no longer Peter's ancestry (possible links, kept). Anna's maiden name is a separate question. People: Marija Gibboja, Mārcis Gibboy, Anna Mežciema, Mārcis Ģibols, Anna Balodis.

Mārtiņš × Emma Smukule marriage

Confirmed They married at St Martin's, Rīga, 22 Apr 1911 (Julian) = 5 May 1911. People: Mārtiņš Vilhelms Sirlaks, Emma Smukule.

Next step: Find the main register (no. 62) for ages, residence and witnesses.

A 1920 Velta Sirlaka birth (cousin Velta?)

Unlikely The raduraksti 1920 birth is cousin Velta. People: Velta Skaidrīte Sirlaka.

Priekuļi BillionGraves "Pēteris Sirlaka 1847–1935 / Marija 1853–1925"

Unlikely Pēteris Sirlaks died in 1935, not 1896. People: Pēteris Sirlaks.

Oto Smukulis, b. 1890 Rauna, d. 1964 (exile press): Emma's brother?

Ruled out Oto Smukulis was a son of Dāvis Smukuls and Marija Kajone, Emma's younger brother. People: Emma Smukule.

Mirdza's husband Fricis Gailītis = Fricis Andrejs Gailitis (b. 1907 Matkule)

Possibly The DP Fricis Andrejs Gailitis (b. 6 Jan 1907 Matkule, mathematics teacher, Canada by 1948) is Mirdza Sirlaka's husband. People: Fricis Gailītis.

Fricis Gailītis and Mirdza: death and marriage dates in Raimonds's MyHeritage tree

Open Fricis Gailītis died in Sep 1969 and married Mirdza in May 1955 in Toronto; Mirdza died 5 Jul 2010 (ours). Raimonds's 1968, 1956 and 10 Jul 2010 are probably slips. People: Fricis Gailītis, Mirdza Augusta Sirlaka.

People named with Elvīra in the Haunstetten records (1945)

Open Others on Elvīra's 1945 records may be relatives. People: Elvīra Antonija Sirlaka.

Biruta's father given as 'Pēteris' on her DP card

Unlikely Biruta's father was Pēteris (not Mārtiņš). People: Biruta Zeltīte Sirlaka.

Peter McCabe × Catherine Prunty of Lislea (Currin RC) and Fair Green, Belturbet, Co. Cavan (with daughter Susan b. c. 1885 and daughter Margaret McCabe d. 1935 in Portland, OR)

Possibly Susan's parents were Peter McCabe (farmer of Lislea, Currin parish, later tailor of Fair Green, Belturbet, Co. Cavan; d. 31 Mar 1903) and Catherine Prunty (m. 4 Feb 1869 Newtownbutler RC chapel; d. 28 Feb 1889 Belturbet). People: Peter McCabe, Susan May McCabe.

Next step: Check Susan's SS-5 when delivered; check Currin / Annagh RC parish baptism registers (post-1881) and Mt. Calvary Cemetery lot records in Portland.

Susan McCabe, 17, domestic, Co. Cavan, arrived Quebec June 1905 (SS Bavarian), bound for Toronto

Possibly This is Peter's Susan McCabe (later Hall). People: Susan May McCabe.

Next step: Read the Bavarian manifest line (FS 2Q3H-W4D) in full; search border crossings 1905–17; read the Peter A. McCabe of Ballyhaise 1903 (JFYL-32H) and James McCabe of Cootehill 1904 (JN9G-86D) lines.

Parents of Charles H. Hall Sr. (b. c. 1891 TX) and Susan McCabe (b. 1886/87 Ireland)

Open Their parents and origins can be found. People: Charles Hall, Susan May McCabe.

Next step: 1900/1910 Comanche Co. census for a Charles/Charlie Hall b. Sep 1890/91 (FamilySearch, once Peter signs in again).

Where and when Charles H. Hall Sr. married Susan McCabe

Open They married c. 1918, before Margaret Ellen's birth in Jan 1919, probably in Oregon, California or Washington. People: Charles Hall, Susan May McCabe.

Next step: FIRST: California county marriages for 17 Aug 1917 ± a few days (FamilySearch 'California, County Marriages, 1850-1953'; Mariposa, Merced, San Francisco, Fresno) for Charles Hall × Susan McCabe. Then Oregon statewide marriage index 1906–24 (Ancestry 'Oregon, State Marriages'); California (Mariposa, Merced, San Francisco) 1917–18; an Army chaplain's marriage at Vancouver Barracks or Camp Lewis; the VA claim file XC 198 015 (a widow's claim needs proof of marriage).

Family tradition: Charles H. Hall Sr.'s father was 'Peter Hall'

Doubtful His father was named Peter Hall. People: Charles Hall.

Next step: Confirm which Charles H. Hall b. 1891 TX is ours, then read his childhood census households.

Susan McCabe, 16, sailed Ireland → New York on the Majestic, 16 Aug 1900

Doubtful This is Peter's Susan McCabe (later Hall). People: Susan May McCabe.

Next step: Read the New York arrival manifest line on FamilySearch/Ancestry.

Weak candidates for the later Charles: Charles M. Hall (Hail, Fannin Co. TX, 1950, divorced) and Charles Henry Hall (Blaine Co. OK 1940; McAlester penitentiary 1942–43)

Doubtful One of these is Charles H. Hall Sr. after he left Susan (she was 'married' 1930, 'widowed' 1940, 'separated' 1950). People: Charles Hall.

Charles H. Hall Sr. = Charles Henry Hall, b. 12 Sep 1890/91 Comanche, TX (WWI draft card, El Portal CA, 1917; VA card 'Vancouver Wash')

Confirmed Peter's great-grandfather is the Charles Henry Hall born in Comanche, Texas, on 12 Sep 1890 or 1891. People: Charles Hall.

Next step: His parents: VA claim file XC 198 015 (requested; reply promised about 6 November 2026); 1900/1910 Comanche census.

Susan McCabe's father was Peter McCabe (her 1972 Oregon death certificate)

Confirmed Her father was named Peter McCabe. People: Susan May McCabe.

Next step: When the SS-5 arrives: her mother's maiden name; then Irish marriages of Peter McCabe and the baptisms of his children.

Charles H. Hall Sr., b. 26 Sep 1891, d. 14 Jun 1973, Rose Hills, Whittier CA (Find a Grave 102551051)

Unlikely This bare memorial is Charles H. Hall Sr. People: Charles Hall.

Matthew McCabe × Kate Redmond, Donnybrook (a second McCabe × Redmond couple near Ringsend)

Ruled out Matthew McCabe (porter) and Kate formerly Redmond are kin of the Ringsend McCabes. People: Susan May McCabe.

Other Charles Halls b. 1890 TX: Charles Henderson Hall (Groom TX, d. 1952) and Charles Blanton Hall (Los Angeles, d. 1956)

Ruled out Either is Charles H. Hall Sr. People: Charles Hall.

Susan McCabe = Susan b. 22 Mar 1884, Gortskeagh, Co. Cavan (Lawrence McCabe × Margaret Curran)

Ruled out Susan's parents were Lawrence McCabe (b. c. 1855, farmer, son of James McCabe; d. 21 Apr 1935 Corgarve) and Margaret Curran (b. c. 1855, daughter of John Curran; d. 7 Feb 1924 Corgarve), married 23 May 1883 at Killoughter RC chapel; her siblings a DNA match (1887), Ellen (c. 1891), Owen (1892), Margaret (1894), Catherine (1896), Lawrence (1898) and Bernard (1901, d. 1901). A CANDIDATE family only: they are ghost people in the viewer (candidate_links.yaml) and their records stay here as evidence, never as facts on Susan or as parent links. People: Susan May McCabe.

Next step: None. Kept as a ruled-out lead so it isn't re-adopted from other people's trees.

Susan McCabe = the Susan born in Ringsend, Dublin, on 1 Feb 1887 (father Patrick, labourer; mother Elizabeth Redmond)

Ruled out Susan's parents were Patrick McCabe and Elizabeth Redmond of Ringsend. People: Susan May McCabe.

Birth mother = Irene Mary Barnhart (b. 16 Aug 1900 Lynden WA)

Probably Estella's mother was Irene Mary Barnhart, daughter of Phillip Barnhart and Margaret A. Walker (dau. of William Alexander Walker + Jean Arbuckle). People: Estella May Alderson.

Next step: Request a photocopy of the original 1916 image for state file 146-1916-005906 (Seattle cert. 1743/1763) from WA State Archives or WA DOH to read the birthplace street address and attendant; check print/microfilm 1915–1917 Seattle and Bellingham Polk directories (not digitized on archive.org/HathiTrust).

Walker × Arbuckle as Estella's birth family (the DNA side)

Probably Estella descends from William Alexander Walker (1843–1930) and Jean Arbuckle (1847–1907). People: Estella May Alderson.

Next step: Ask Kathleen to test; identify which Walker granddaughter fits.

Which Walker–Arbuckle line: Margaret (Barnhart), Olive Kirwin, Edith Ione Leonard

Possibly The mother was a daughter or granddaughter of one of the W×A daughters near Washington in 1915–17: Margaret (Barnhart, Whatcom Co.), Olive Maud Kirwin (Sedro-Woolley/Redmond) or Edith Ione Leonard (Renton/Seattle; a daughter born Seattle 1914). People: Estella May Alderson.

SS-5: the parents Estella herself named

Open Her Social Security application may name her birth parents. People: Estella May Alderson.

Next step: Request prepared (docs/requests/2026-10-ss5-estella.md); needs Peter's Login.gov or ID.me sign-in.

Estella = "Phillis May Barns", b. 5 May 1916 Seattle

Confirmed Estella was registered at birth as Phillis May Barns, mother "Irene Barns", father "John Smith" (WA cert. 1743 or 1763). People: Estella May Alderson.

Next step: None for the identification. The record was never amended for an adoption (see estella-court-adoption).

A formal court adoption (Oregon or Washington)

Unlikely Estella was adopted by court order. People: Estella May Alderson.

Birth mother = Irene F. Barnes (b. 12 Dec 1894 MN; Portland 1910)

Unlikely The "Irene Barns" of the index was Irene F. Barnes of Portland. People: Estella May Alderson.

Next step: None until the certificate arrives.

Birth mother = Ruth Irene Barnes (b. Dec 1896 OR; Portland 1900)

Unlikely The "Irene Barns" of the index was Ruth Irene Barnes. People: Estella May Alderson.

Other WA girls born 3–7 May 1916 (near-misses)

Unlikely Estella is one of the other registered births: Phyllis Jane Fleicher (6 May, Seattle), Rachel Walter/Foss (7 May, Spokane; mother 'Walter' = Walker?), Mills (unnamed, 6 May), Maysie Elizabeth Ballew (7 May, Kitsap). People: Estella May Alderson.

A-files: Arvīds (A-7218970), Elvīra (A-7218969), Pēteris (A-7219632)

Open The immigration A-files hold DP and naturalization papers. People: Arvīds Fricis Danenbergs, Elvīra Antonija Sirlaka.

Next step: USCIS Genealogy or NARA.

Arolsen CM/1 files 855473 and 855706

Open The IRO eligibility files hold the family's own statements. People: Arvīds Fricis Danenbergs, Elvīra Antonija Sirlaka.

Next step: Requested 2026-10-21; 5–13 months (docs/requests/2026-10-arolsen-cm1-files.md).

Estella's adoptive Alderson/Newman line (~1,300 FamilySearch ancestors)

Open The adoptive line's deep ancestry (to the 1200s) belongs in the tree. People: Winter Scott Alderson, Carrie May Newman.

Next step: A later import can pull in more (proposal §5 decides two generations).

"Jewish ancestry, never tell anyone": a family story on the Danenberg side

Unlikely There is Jewish ancestry on the Danenberg side.

Next step: Wait for Dad's Family Finder results; collect the Jewish Danenbergs' letters (Peter's and his father's email).